Math Problem Statement

Find two other pairs of polar coordinates that represent the same point as (9, π/4), one with r > 0 and the other with r < 0.

Solution

The problem asks you to find two other pairs of polar coordinates that represent the same point as (9,π4)(9, \frac{\pi}{4}), one with r>0r > 0 and the other with r<0r < 0.

Step 1: Finding another pair with r>0r > 0

The radius r=9r = 9 stays the same, but you can adjust the angle by adding or subtracting any multiple of 2π2\pi. In this case, to maintain r>0r > 0, you can add 2π2\pi to the angle π4\frac{\pi}{4}.

θ=π4+2π=π4+8π4=9π4\theta = \frac{\pi}{4} + 2\pi = \frac{\pi}{4} + \frac{8\pi}{4} = \frac{9\pi}{4}

Thus, the second set of coordinates is: (9,9π4)(9, \frac{9\pi}{4})

Step 2: Finding another pair with r<0r < 0

When r<0r < 0, you must add or subtract an odd multiple of π\pi to the angle to point in the opposite direction. So, you subtract π\pi from the angle:

θ=π4π=π44π4=3π4\theta = \frac{\pi}{4} - \pi = \frac{\pi}{4} - \frac{4\pi}{4} = -\frac{3\pi}{4}

With r=9r = -9, the third set of coordinates is: (9,3π4)(-9, -\frac{3\pi}{4})

Thus, the two additional polar coordinates are:

  1. (9,9π4)(9, \frac{9\pi}{4})
  2. (9,3π4)(-9, -\frac{3\pi}{4})

Would you like a more detailed explanation or help with another step?

Here are 5 related questions to deepen your understanding:

  1. What is the relationship between adding 2π2\pi to the angle and the position of the point?
  2. How does reversing the radius change the angle in polar coordinates?
  3. Why is r=9r = 9 unchanged when adding multiples of 2π2\pi to the angle?
  4. How would the Cartesian coordinates change for each polar pair?
  5. What would be the next polar pair if you subtracted 2π2\pi instead of adding it?

Tip: In polar coordinates, angles are periodic, so adding or subtracting multiples of 2π2\pi represents the same direction.

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Math Problem Analysis

Mathematical Concepts

Polar Coordinates
Angle Manipulation
Coordinate Systems

Formulas

θ = θ + 2π for finding equivalent angles with positive radius
θ = θ ± π for changing the sign of the radius

Theorems

Periodic nature of angles in polar coordinates

Suitable Grade Level

Grades 10-12