Math Problem Statement

Perhatikan dua pernyataan berikut. a) ∀x∈N,∃y∈N ∃ x − y > 0 b) ∃y∈N, ∀x∈N ∃ x − y > 0 Tentukan apakah masing-masing pernyataan tersebut bernilai benar atau salah kemudian berikan penjelasan.

Solution

Let's analyze each statement to determine whether it is true or false.

Given Statements:

  1. Statement (a): xN,yNsuch thatxy>0\forall x \in \mathbb{N}, \exists y \in \mathbb{N} \, \text{such that} \, x - y > 0

    • This statement asserts that for every natural number xx, there exists a natural number yy such that xy>0x - y > 0.
  2. Statement (b): yN,xNsuch thatxy>0\exists y \in \mathbb{N}, \forall x \in \mathbb{N} \, \text{such that} \, x - y > 0

    • This statement asserts that there exists a natural number yy such that for every natural number xx, xy>0x - y > 0.

Analyzing Each Statement

Statement (a)

This statement is essentially saying that for every natural number xx, we can find another natural number yy that is smaller than xx (since xy>0x - y > 0 implies y<xy < x).

  • For example, if x=2x = 2, we can choose y=1y = 1, and xy=21=1>0x - y = 2 - 1 = 1 > 0.
  • Similarly, if x=3x = 3, we can choose y=2y = 2, and xy=32=1>0x - y = 3 - 2 = 1 > 0.

Since we can always choose a yy that is less than xx (by picking y=x1y = x - 1 for any x>1x > 1), this statement is true.

Statement (b)

This statement suggests that there exists a specific natural number yy such that for all natural numbers xx, xy>0x - y > 0. This would mean that yy is smaller than every natural number xx.

  • If we consider y=1y = 1, then xy>0x - y > 0 for all x>1x > 1.
  • However, if we consider x=1x = 1 and y=1y = 1, then xy=11=0x - y = 1 - 1 = 0, which does not satisfy xy>0x - y > 0.

Since no single yy can make xy>0x - y > 0 true for all xNx \in \mathbb{N} (particularly when x=1x = 1), this statement is false.

Conclusion

  • Statement (a) is true.
  • Statement (b) is false.

Would you like further details on the reasoning? Here are some related questions for further exploration:

  1. What would happen if we changed the condition xy>0x - y > 0 to xy0x - y \geq 0?
  2. How would these statements change if the domain was the set of integers Z\mathbb{Z} instead of natural numbers?
  3. What if we altered statement (a) to use "for some xx" instead of "for all xx"?
  4. Could there be other values of yy in statement (b) that make it work for more cases, if not all?
  5. How does quantifier ordering affect the truth of mathematical statements in general?

Tip: In statements involving quantifiers, changing the order of "for all" (\forall) and "there exists" (\exists) can significantly alter the meaning and truth of the statement.