Math Problem Statement

root(17 - root 77 -root(78 - 2 root 77))

Solution

Let's simplify the given expression step by step:

The expression is: 177778277\sqrt{17 - \sqrt{77} - \sqrt{78 - 2\sqrt{77}}}

Step 1: Simplify the inner square root expression

First, let's focus on simplifying the inner square root: 78277\sqrt{78 - 2\sqrt{77}} This expression is in the form a2b\sqrt{a - 2\sqrt{b}}, which can sometimes be simplified to the form (mn)2\sqrt{(\sqrt{m} - \sqrt{n})^2}, where mm and nn are numbers.

Let's try to express 7827778 - 2\sqrt{77} in this form:

Suppose: m=x+y\sqrt{m} = \sqrt{x} + \sqrt{y} (xy)2=x+y2xy(\sqrt{x} - \sqrt{y})^2 = x + y - 2\sqrt{xy}

So, we want: x+y=78and2xy=277x + y = 78 \quad \text{and} \quad 2\sqrt{xy} = 2\sqrt{77} This implies: xy=77xy = 77

We need to solve these simultaneous equations:

  1. x+y=78x + y = 78
  2. xy=77xy = 77

These correspond to the quadratic equation: t278t+77=0t^2 - 78t + 77 = 0

Solving this quadratic equation gives us the roots t=77t = 77 and t=1t = 1, meaning x=77x = 77 and y=1y = 1 (or vice versa).

Thus: 78277=(771)2=771\sqrt{78 - 2\sqrt{77}} = \sqrt{(\sqrt{77} - \sqrt{1})^2} = \sqrt{77} - 1

Step 2: Substitute back into the original expression

Now substitute back: 1777(771)\sqrt{17 - \sqrt{77} - (\sqrt{77} - 1)} This simplifies to: 177777+1=18277\sqrt{17 - \sqrt{77} - \sqrt{77} + 1} = \sqrt{18 - 2\sqrt{77}}

Step 3: Simplify 18277\sqrt{18 - 2\sqrt{77}}

Similarly, let's try to express 1827718 - 2\sqrt{77} in the form (xy)2(\sqrt{x} - \sqrt{y})^2.

Suppose: 18277=(ab)2\sqrt{18 - 2\sqrt{77}} = \sqrt{(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{b})^2} This leads to: a+b=18and2ab=277a + b = 18 \quad \text{and} \quad 2\sqrt{ab} = 2\sqrt{77} Which implies: ab=77ab = 77

Again solving the quadratic equation: t218t+77=0t^2 - 18t + 77 = 0

This gives roots t=7t = 7 and t=11t = 11.

Thus: 18277=(117)2=117\sqrt{18 - 2\sqrt{77}} = \sqrt{(\sqrt{11} - \sqrt{7})^2} = \sqrt{11} - \sqrt{7}

Final Answer:

177778277=117\sqrt{17 - \sqrt{77} - \sqrt{78 - 2\sqrt{77}}} = \sqrt{11} - \sqrt{7}

Would you like to dive into any part of this process further? Here are some follow-up questions:

  1. How does the quadratic formula apply to solving the simplification?
  2. Can you explain the process of expressing a difference as a perfect square?
  3. What other forms of roots or radical expressions can be simplified similarly?
  4. How would the method change if there were additional terms inside the square root?
  5. Can you apply this method to another similar expression?

Tip: Always look out for patterns when dealing with nested square roots, as they often simplify into a more manageable form.

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Math Problem Analysis

Mathematical Concepts

Square Roots
Nested Radicals
Quadratic Equations

Formulas

Quadratic equation formula

Theorems

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Suitable Grade Level

Advanced High School