Math Problem Statement

Question Stem: A conical capacitor is formed by having electrodes on conical surfaces. The positive electrode is at θ=θ_+, 〖r 〗_a≤r≤〖r 〗b, and 0≤ϕ≤ϕ_0. The negative electrode is at θ=θ-, 〖r 〗_a≤r≤〖r 〗_b, and 0≤ϕ≤ϕ_0. find the electric field of the capacitor. if using gauss' law, use a conical surface please. show the derivation step by step. recall that there is azimuthal symmetry (ϕ), but not radial symmetry (r) nor angular symmetry (θ).

My answer: An electric field is established when a voltage is applied across the electrodes, with the field lines pointing from the positive electrode to the negative electrode (i.e. ‘outwards’). The strength of the electric field is inversely proportional to the distance between the electrode, and therefore, the geometry of the capacitor. In this example, with a conical capacitor, there is azimuthal symmetry (ϕ), but not radial symmetry (r) nor angular symmetry (θ) (image link). Therefore, the strength of the electric field varies with the angle, θ, specifically, the difference in the angle size, θ_d, between the two electrodes, and consequently, also the radial distance, r. The electric field will be stronger at the apex of the cone (where the electrodes are closer together) compared to the base of the cone (where the electrodes are further apart). Imagine a conical Gaussian surface located between the two electrodes (i.e. within the dielectric material). As seen in Lecture 2, Slide 4, the electric flux density, D ⃗, and the electric field, Ε ⃗, are related by the equation below. D ⃗=ϵ_0 Ε ⃗ The total electric flux exiting a closed surface is related to that of the charge enclosed within the surface by Gauss’ Law (also defined in Lecture 2, Slide 4) ∯▒〖D ⃗∙ds ⃗ 〗=∯▒〖ϵ_0 Ε ⃗∙ds ⃗ 〗=ϵ_0 ∯▒〖Ε ⃗∙ds ⃗ 〗=Q_enclosed ⇒∯▒〖ℇ ̅∙ds ⃗ 〗=Q_enclosed/ϵ_0 Given the aspects of symmetry discussed above, we infer that the electric field will be in the form Ε ⃗=E(r,θ) r ̂ In other words, the electric field is radial, but can vary with both r and θ. As seen in this online source, ds ⃗ can be expressed as ds ⃗=r^2 sin⁡(θ)dθ dϕ Therefore, the LHS of the above Gauss’ Law equation is ∯▒〖ℇ ̅∙ds ⃗ 〗=E(r,θ)∙r^2 sin⁡(θ)dθ dϕ For the RHS of the above equation, we can use the surface charge density, ρ_s, on the positive electrode to calculate Q_enclosed. Q_enclosed=ρ_s×(surface area of cone) =ρ_s×∫0^(ϕ_0)▒〖∫(r_a)^(r_b)▒〖r sin⁡(θ_+ ) 〗 dr dϕ〗 =ρ_s ((r_b^2-r_a^2)/2) ϕ_0 sin⁡(θ_+ ) This was calculated using Mathematica. Steps taken as similar to those seen in this online source.

Therefore, we now have ∯▒〖ℇ ̅∙ds ⃗ 〗=Q_enclosed/ϵ_0 E(r,θ)∙r^2 sin⁡(θ)dθ dϕ=(ρ_s ((r_b^2-r_a^2)/2) ϕ_0 sin⁡(θ_+ ))/ϵ_0 E(r,θ)=(ρ_s ((r_b^2-r_a^2)/2) ϕ_0 sin⁡(θ_+ ))/(ϵ_0 r^2 sin⁡(θ)dθ dϕ)

is there anything wrong with my answer/can it be simplified more, etc.?

Solution

Your approach is on the right track, but let's clarify and streamline the derivation step by step to ensure clarity and correctness.

Step-by-Step Derivation of the Electric Field in a Conical Capacitor

  1. Understanding Geometry and Symmetry:

    • You correctly noted that the system exhibits azimuthal symmetry (around the z-axis, ϕ) but lacks radial (r) and angular (θ) symmetry. This means the electric field will depend on r and θ.
  2. Using Gauss's Law:

    • Gauss's Law states: ΦE=Qencϵ0\Phi_E = \frac{Q_{\text{enc}}}{\epsilon_0}
    • The electric flux through a closed surface is given by: ΦE=EdA\Phi_E = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{A}
    • For the conical capacitor, consider a conical Gaussian surface between the electrodes.
  3. Electric Field Representation:

    • Due to the symmetry, assume: E=E(r,θ)r^\vec{E} = E(r, \theta) \hat{r}
  4. Surface Area Element:

    • The area element on the conical surface can be expressed as: dA=r2sin(θ)dθdϕdA = r^2 \sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi
    • Thus, the electric flux through the Gaussian surface becomes: ΦE=E(r,θ)dA=E(r,θ)0ϕ0rarbr2sin(θ)dθdϕ\Phi_E = E(r, \theta) \oint dA = E(r, \theta) \int_0^{\phi_0} \int_{r_a}^{r_b} r^2 \sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi
  5. Charge Enclosed:

    • The charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface can be calculated as: Qenc=σs×(Area of the positive electrode)Q_{\text{enc}} = \sigma_s \times \text{(Area of the positive electrode)}
    • The area of the conical surface of the positive electrode is: A=0ϕ0rarbrsin(θ+)drdϕ=sin(θ+)((rb2ra2)2)ϕ0A = \int_0^{\phi_0} \int_{r_a}^{r_b} r \sin(\theta_+) dr d\phi = \sin(\theta_+) \left( \frac{(r_b^2 - r_a^2)}{2} \right) \phi_0
  6. Combining Equations:

    • Therefore, we have: Qenc=σssin(θ+)((rb2ra2)2)ϕ0Q_{\text{enc}} = \sigma_s \sin(\theta_+) \left( \frac{(r_b^2 - r_a^2)}{2} \right) \phi_0
  7. Setting Up Gauss's Law:

    • Now substitute into Gauss's Law: E(r,θ)0ϕ0rarbr2sin(θ)dθdϕ=σssin(θ+)((rb2ra2)2)ϕ0ϵ0E(r, \theta) \int_0^{\phi_0} \int_{r_a}^{r_b} r^2 \sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi = \frac{\sigma_s \sin(\theta_+) \left( \frac{(r_b^2 - r_a^2)}{2} \right) \phi_0}{\epsilon_0}
    • The integral on the left gives: 0ϕ0dϕrarbr2sin(θ)dr=ϕ0((rb3ra3)3)sin(θ)\int_0^{\phi_0} d\phi \int_{r_a}^{r_b} r^2 \sin(\theta) dr = \phi_0 \left( \frac{(r_b^3 - r_a^3)}{3} \right) \sin(\theta)
  8. Final Expression:

    • Rearranging gives: E(r,θ)=σssin(θ+)(rb2ra2)/(2ϵ0)ϕ0(r2sin(θ)(rb3ra3)3)E(r, \theta) = \frac{\sigma_s \sin(\theta_+) (r_b^2 - r_a^2) / (2 \epsilon_0)}{\phi_0 (r^2 \sin(\theta) \frac{(r_b^3 - r_a^3)}{3})}
    • This indicates the electric field is dependent on both r and θ, consistent with your assertion.

Conclusion

Your fundamental understanding was correct, but be mindful of the integration limits and the form of the charge density. The final expression for E(r,θ)E(r, \theta) can often be simplified further depending on the specific geometry and boundary conditions. Make sure to verify that you've considered the physical limits and any approximations.

Questions for Further Consideration:

  1. How does the electric field vary if the angle θ_+ is changed?
  2. What happens to the electric field if the radius rar_a approaches rbr_b?
  3. Can you analyze how the dielectric material affects the electric field?
  4. How would the electric field change if the capacitor were to operate under different voltage conditions?
  5. What is the impact of edge effects at the boundaries of the conical capacitor?

Tip

Visualizing the setup using diagrams can significantly enhance your understanding of how the electric field behaves in non-standard geometries like conical capacitors.

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Math Problem Analysis

Mathematical Concepts

Electromagnetism
Gauss's Law
Electric Field
Symmetry in Physics

Formulas

D = ε_0 E
Φ_E = Q_enc / ε_0

Theorems

Gauss's Law

Suitable Grade Level

Undergraduate Physics