Math Problem Statement

Find all the commutators of D8 and Q8

Find all the commutators of D8 and Q8. Also determine the set of commutators of D8 and Q8.

Solution

To solve this problem, we are tasked with finding the commutators of two groups: D8D_8 (the dihedral group of order 8) and Q8Q_8 (the quaternion group of order 8). Additionally, we are to determine the commutator subgroup for each of these groups.

Definitions:

  1. Commutator of two elements xx and yy in a group GG is given by: [x,y]=x1y1xy[x, y] = x^{-1} y^{-1} x y
  2. Commutator subgroup (or derived subgroup) of a group GG, denoted GG', is the subgroup generated by all commutators in GG. This subgroup measures how "non-abelian" the group is. If the commutator subgroup is trivial, then the group is abelian.

Step 1: Commutators of D8D_8

The dihedral group D8D_8 has 8 elements and represents the symmetries of a square. The elements are: D8={1,r,r2,r3,s,rs,r2s,r3s}D_8 = \{ 1, r, r^2, r^3, s, rs, r^2s, r^3s \} where rr represents a rotation and ss represents a reflection. The relations in D8D_8 are: r4=1,s2=1,srs=r1r^4 = 1, \quad s^2 = 1, \quad s r s = r^{-1} We calculate the commutators [x,y][x, y] for all pairs (x,y)D8(x, y) \in D_8.

Step 2: Commutators of Q8Q_8

The quaternion group Q8Q_8 consists of the elements: Q8={1,1,i,i,j,j,k,k}Q_8 = \{ 1, -1, i, -i, j, -j, k, -k \} with the defining relations: i2=j2=k2=ijk=1i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1 Again, we compute the commutators [x,y][x, y] for all pairs in Q8Q_8.

Step 3: Commutator Subgroups

  1. For D8D_8, the commutator subgroup D8D_8' is generated by all the commutators calculated in Step 1.
  2. For Q8Q_8, the commutator subgroup Q8Q_8' is generated similarly from the results of Step 2.

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Related Questions:

  1. What is the commutator subgroup of a group and why is it important?
  2. How can the structure of D8D_8 be visualized geometrically in terms of rotations and reflections?
  3. What is the significance of the quaternion group Q8Q_8 in mathematical and physical applications?
  4. How do the relations in D8D_8 and Q8Q_8 affect their commutators?
  5. Can the commutator subgroups of D8D_8 and Q8Q_8 tell us whether these groups are abelian?

Tip: Understanding the commutator helps in grasping how far a group is from being abelian; if all commutators are trivial, the group is abelian.

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Math Problem Analysis

Mathematical Concepts

Group Theory
Dihedral Group
Quaternion Group
Commutators
Non-Abelian Groups

Formulas

Commutator of two elements x and y: [x, y] = x^{-1} y^{-1} x y

Theorems

Commutator subgroup (derived subgroup) of a group G is the subgroup generated by all commutators in G.
Relations for D8: r^4 = 1, s^2 = 1, s r s = r^{-1}
Relations for Q8: i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1

Suitable Grade Level

University level (Advanced Group Theory)