Math Problem Statement

question 1 : 2line p&q, 3 point. r lies on the point p and 4. r lies on point q then how many total number of triangles can be formed from 8 points

How many quadrilaterals can be formed from 8 points

Solution

Number of Triangles that Can Be Formed from 8 Points

We are given 8 points in total, with the following conditions:

  • Two lines pp and qq have 3 points each.
  • Point rr lies on both lines pp and qq, meaning rr is a common point between the two lines.
  • There are 4 other distinct points, which means there are 8 total points: 3 points on line pp, 3 points on line qq, and 2 other points not on either line.

Step 1: Triangles from 8 points without constraints

The total number of triangles that can be formed from 8 points (without considering any constraints) is simply the combination of choosing 3 points out of 8. This can be calculated as: (83)=8×7×63×2×1=56\binom{8}{3} = \frac{8 \times 7 \times 6}{3 \times 2 \times 1} = 56

Step 2: Subtract degenerate cases (collinear points)

Triangles cannot be formed from 3 collinear points, so we need to exclude the degenerate cases.

  • Line pp has 3 points. A triangle cannot be formed by selecting all 3 points from line pp, so we subtract this case: (33)=1 (degenerate case for line p)\binom{3}{3} = 1 \text{ (degenerate case for line } p\text{)}

  • Similarly, line qq also has 3 points, so we subtract this case: (33)=1 (degenerate case for line q)\binom{3}{3} = 1 \text{ (degenerate case for line } q\text{)}

Now, subtract these degenerate cases: 5611=5456 - 1 - 1 = 54

So, 54 triangles can be formed from these 8 points.


Number of Quadrilaterals that Can Be Formed from 8 Points

To form a quadrilateral, we need to choose 4 points from the 8 total points. This can be calculated as:

(84)=8×7×6×54×3×2×1=70\binom{8}{4} = \frac{8 \times 7 \times 6 \times 5}{4 \times 3 \times 2 \times 1} = 70

Since quadrilaterals cannot be degenerate (no 4 points are collinear on any of the lines), there are no degenerate cases to subtract in this situation.

So, the total number of quadrilaterals that can be formed is 70.


Summary:

  • Triangles: 54
  • Quadrilaterals: 70

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Related Questions:

  1. What is the general formula for calculating combinations?
  2. How can we calculate the number of degenerate polygons in a set of points?
  3. What happens if more points are collinear in the above problem?
  4. How does the presence of overlapping points affect polygon formation?
  5. Can we use similar techniques to count other polygons, like pentagons?

Tip:

When solving combinatorics problems, always consider if there are degenerate cases (like collinear points) that need to be subtracted from the total combinations.

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Math Problem Analysis

Mathematical Concepts

Combinatorics
Geometry

Formulas

nCr = n! / (r!(n-r)!)

Theorems

Combination Formula
Degenerate Polygon Theory

Suitable Grade Level

Grades 10-12